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Tech Corner => Suppliers => Topic started by: data on February 07, 2012, 12:05:03 AM
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I may as we add Geoff here, nice bloke that sells Neotech wire on the bay.
Goes by seller name "gmdb"
I like this for hook-up wire http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Neotech-UPOCC-Solid-Core-7N-Copper-24AWG-Blue-Teflon-/220867876913?pt=AU_Electronics_Accessories_Wires_Cables&hash=item336cc05831
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I may as we add Geoff here, nice bloke that sells Neotech wire on the bay.
Goes by seller name "gmdb"
I like this for hook-up wire http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Neotech-UPOCC-Solid-Core-7N-Copper-24AWG-Blue-Teflon-/220867876913?pt=AU_Electronics_Accessories_Wires_Cables&hash=item336cc05831
Many thanks, have been looking for this stuff.
Z
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I may as we add Geoff here, nice bloke that sells Neotech wire on the bay.
Goes by seller name "gmdb"
I like this for hook-up wire http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Neotech-UPOCC-Solid-Core-7N-Copper-24AWG-Blue-Teflon-/220867876913?pt=AU_Electronics_Accessories_Wires_Cables&hash=item336cc05831
Oh data now i must try here we go again ;) ;)
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Resistance is futile!
Although, I imagine very little resistance with this wire :D
Geoff is very good on the service side of things too.
I still want to try some of the 20awg stuff in a pony-tail build for speaker cables, the 24awg is good for hook-up and ICs.
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Ordered 2m red and 2m black ;D
Thanks for posting the info data.
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Yup, I also bought 10 mtrs to rewire some kit and as it's my Birthday today, yeah, old fart of 55 :'( No charge for postage over 10 mtrs which is a nice freebe ;D I also bought me some pimp priced SET 211's valves, 2 Dell precision laptops, 64 gig of server ram and an 8 way 4gb fibre hub cus no one else loves me! Well maybe my Dogs who had a great time swiming in the Indian ocean earlier today and are currently snoring happily in the lounge with a bit of belioz gently playing in the background so as not to wake them. Sigh :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
V
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Yup, I also bought 10 mtrs to rewire some kit and as it's my Birthday today, yeah, old fart of 55 :'( No charge for postage over 10 mtrs which is a nice freebe ;D I also bought me some pimp priced SET 211's valves, 2 Dell precision laptops, 64 gig of server ram and an 8 way 4gb fibre hub cus no one else loves me! Well maybe my Dogs who had a great time swiming in the Indian ocean earlier today and are currently snoring happily in the lounge with a bit of belioz gently playing in the background so as not to wake them. Sigh :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
V
Many happy returns V :) Congratz on your new toys too! 211 argh... gimme tissues :D
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Damn it!
With all this wire talk, I had to get some for speaker cables myself.
Couldn't just sit and watch others have wire fun ;D
Ian
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I may as we add Geoff here, nice bloke that sells Neotech wire on the bay.
Goes by seller name "gmdb"
I like this for hook-up wire http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Neotech-UPOCC-Solid-Core-7N-Copper-24AWG-Blue-Teflon-/220867876913?pt=AU_Electronics_Accessories_Wires_Cables&hash=item336cc05831
Many thanks, have been looking for this stuff.
Z
No problem, Z.
I thought you guys would have tried this stuff already, so hadn't posted earlier.
Cheers
Ian
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Oh, just a little update on what Geoff is doing...
I know most of us here like to construct our own cables, but Geoff has just started making up ICs using the Neotech wire and Eichmann copper bullet connectors, and the pricing at the moment is only $99.95 plus post for a .75m pair!
Seems like good value, getting a pair myself next fortnight.
He can use a combo of Copper and Silver Neotech wire like the ones in the sale here http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-Aurealis-R1-Audio-Interconnects-Neotech-UPOCC-wire-Eichmann-RCA-Bullets-/220981958318?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item33738d16ae but can also construct them in all copper like what I'm going for.
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Hi Ian , thanks for the tip. Bought a few meters for my new Dac and pre amp projects.
Will let you know how it goes.
G
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It's nice stuff, but remember to be careful not to score the wire when stripping the Teflon dielectric.
I have it in my amp and phono stage now, and use it for my speakers too, next will be IC's.
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Hi guys,
I got this email a few days ago and I'd like to share it with you all should you need to procure the Neotech wire. It's a good stuff, I use it with Cat 5 wire to flavour and tune ;D
Cheers,
William
Hi
I'm sending you this email because you have previously purchased from me on Ebay - (gmdb) AT Accessories. I'm pleased to let you know that I have now opened up my own online store, Aurealis Audio, which can be found at www.aurealisaudio.com.au
UPOCC wire, a large range of Aurealis speaker cables and interconnects, and RCA, XLR connectors etc are available for direct purchase from the new site. Payment can be made through PayPal as usual or bank transfer can be arranged with prior contact.
I have now closed my AT Accessories Ebay store but will continue to sell some limited items on Ebay, such as demo specials, silver solder and phono cartridges. They will be available under my usual moniker of "gmdb".
I am hoping that the move to the new site will enable me to keep prices down, which has become increasingly difficult with the rapidly rising Ebay fees.
best wishes
Geoff
Geoff Maloney
www.aurealiaudio.com.au
Brisbane, Australia
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Hi guys,
Thanks William.
WRT Neotech UPOCC, getting pretty popular these days in various forms / available from solid core to multi strand Litz (individually insulated) type wire
with everything from PTFE / Cotton / PVC insulation. Smorgasbord! Neotech are smart - they make all possible variations and let the audiophiles fight about which sounds best :)
FWIW, I stumbled on this site a while back - Daves Cables: http://www.davescables.com/ most are using some form of Neotech UPOCC
Very affordable hand made HQ cables with 30 day money back if they don't suit.
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I really like my Aurealis interconnects, but in my system, they are picking up a hum.
I am still using neotech wire for my speaker cable on main system, they sound great for the price.
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FWIW, I stumbled on this site a while back - Daves Cables: http://www.davescables.com/ most are using some form of Neotech UPOCC
I found this interesting quote, on Daves ebay listing for the D2 IC.......
The ground wires are 18 gauge Neotech UPOCC copper with a teflon dielectric, there are 2 of them woven in a litz braid with the Neotech wire giving a 15 gauge ground connection. I use a much heavier gauge ground wire because in ICs the ground wire also serves to connect the ground planes of the components being connected, and a lower resistance wire produces less noise. Unlike speaker cable, ICs ground wire does a lot more than serve as a "return".
I'm going to give the D2 a try (just ordered a pair). But the above statement also has me thinking about the construction of my home brew IC's. I've got a bunch of spare connectors and neotech wire. Might do some playing,,,,, haven't made a set of IC's for ages.
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D2's arrived.
Very promising, only put an hour or so on them last night, they sound extended at both ends and very natural and airy in between.
Look forward to further running in, but they are not picking up any hum like the Aurealis cables were , so they are ticking alot of boxes already.
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Sounds good Oz! I would be very interested to compare it to Steve's Yamamura and Paul's Van Den Hul First Ultimate :)
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I'll bring them to the Canberra gtg.
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I would be very interested to compare it to Steve's Yamamura and Paul's Van Den Hul First Ultimate :)
Compared the D2's to Steves Yamamura last night. Not in the same league I am afraid. :-\
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Compared the D2's to Steves Yamamura last night. Not in the same league I am afraid. :-\
That makes the pain of losing out the Yamamura on eBay even worse :(
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That makes the pain of losing out the Yamamura on eBay even worse :(
The recent set on ebay were 6000's and Stevens are 5000's, and whose to say they sound the same, better, or worse?
But yes, I'm really disappointed to have missed them. :(
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The recent set on ebay were 6000's and Stevens are 5000's, and whose to say they sound the same, better, or worse?
But yes, I'm really disappointed to have missed them. :(
The word is that the 5000 sounds better than the 6000. But I will only believe that if I hear it.
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The word is that the 5000 sounds better than the 6000. But I will only believe that if I hear it.
I wonder what's inside the Yamamura - do you know Steven?
Z
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I have a Yamamura power cord .Sounds as good as anything I have tried .Not sure what's in them ,but I might open it up one day to find out .
Also tried one of the interconnects many years ago and was really impressed .Should have bought them but they were expensive at the time .
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I wonder what's inside the Yamamura - do you know Steven?
Z
The yamamura 5000 interconnects I own have a wooden fibre material outer jacket, with about 10 large gauge multistrand wires. It does not look like straight copper wire, but a mixture or blend of metals, but mainly copper. The plugs are unknown to me, they look to be rhodium plated.
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The Yamamura cables are a copper only with a very straight forward construction. There were 2 variations of the cable used internally as far as I now from talking to Be. The copper was the same but the insulation material was quite different between the 2. I once had quite a lot of the raw cable but used most of in making power supplies and internal wiring in some special personal pre's and power amps. Very nice sounding cable.
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The Yamamura cables are a copper only with a very straight forward construction. There were 2 variations of the cable used internally as far as I now from talking to Be. The copper was the same but the insulation material was quite different between the 2. I once had quite a lot of the raw cable but used most of in making power supplies and internal wiring in some special personal pre's and power amps. Very nice sounding cable.
Interesting, the copper inside mine, and the few remaining pieces I have, just looked a bit (colour wise) unlike straight copper. If it is only copper, why the colour. Also it does not really sound like straight copper. Any ideas why.
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For what it's worth I have been using Neotech multi strand Litz as a headphone cable. Picked the assembled braided cable up for much cheaper than I could build one for. I snipped off the jack at the end and soldered on two Eichmann plugs, which I had laying around spare, to connect straight to preamp outs.
This is the biggest difference in cable change that I have ever heard. The stock cable was Mogami. I was expecting a small change but it was not small. I can't believe it's just the cable i'm thinking the connector change is a factor here too. VERY nice upgrade for very little money......
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Hi Steven ,Be Yamamura used to use special coatings on lots of things including wires .I think it was some sort of resin for resonance control ,probably something like C37 lacquer .
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I am starting to think about transferring my pcb kit based pre-amp from its temporary case to a decent case.
I am currently using cat5 cable from: i) input rca's to volume pot; ii) volume pot to pcb ins; and iii) pcb outs to rca outs.
As a part of the transfer to a new case, I am looking at replacing the cat5 with neotech wire.
Based on earlier posts, it would seem 24awg is the way to go. Is this still the best size (out of 24 and 20 awg).
Also, based on recommendations from the pre-amp board supplier, my cat 5 wires are tightly twisted (cable twisted using a drill and vice). Should this practice also be used with the neotech wire?
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Stripped solid core cat5 is a very good wire, often I have used it as a starting point thinking i will find better down the track, but after trying many cables, guess what sometimes the cat5 won out. As for twisting, its always trial and error. As you guys know what seems to work in someone else's setup, may not in your system. I have found the diameter of cat 5 solid core to be about right in most internal applications.
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Thanks Steven, your thoughts are appreciated.
There are times I wish that there were only absolutes in this hobby, though it would not be anywhere as challenging/interesting!
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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/301216752117 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/301216752117)
This wire looks interesting?
Any experience?
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No experience, but am tempted to make a power cable out of it.
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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/301216752117 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/301216752117)
This wire looks interesting?
Any experience?
I think you should buy some
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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/301216752117 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/301216752117)
This wire looks interesting?
I continually find it effing annoying where sellers on ebay provide ambiguous info. >:(
The heading suggests 17AWG, which would be 1.13mm in diameter, but is ~1.0 mm2 cable eg 10A.
The rest of the page refers to 18AWG which is 1.0mm in diameter, ~0.8 mm2 cable eg 7.5A.
It would be illegal to make a power lead out of this wire if you were to put a 10A socket on the end of it, as it needs to be equal to or greater than 1.0mm2 for a 10A cable.
Nominating diameter of single cores is not a normal practice any where that I know of.
I speculate when they refer to "1mm" they are hoping you think it means 1.0 mm2, when it reality it is 1.0 mm in diameter. 17AWG in the header provided accidentally on purpose. >:(
G