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Title: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on March 04, 2014, 05:05:02 PM
Tuyen I listen to mostly ABC Stereo FM every day with my Scott tuners 1960s, love them. Top is a Scott 350 with the valve rectifier. Bottom is a Scott LT110, this is a kit version of the 350 with the valve rectifier. These are the Scotts to get, other than the 310E but they are hard to get and expensive.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: Tuyen on March 04, 2014, 05:30:54 PM
wow those Scott tuners really look the business Steven!    Very nice.

What about this one on the bay?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-H-H-Scott-LK-110-B-FM-tuner-/121287727675?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item1c3d4fda3b (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-H-H-Scott-LK-110-B-FM-tuner-/121287727675?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item1c3d4fda3b)


I also listen to mainly ABC Classic FM too (and sometimes a bit of Triple J :))    Wonderful selection of music.   I find it hard to listen to any of the pop stations while in the car.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on March 04, 2014, 11:07:04 PM
wow those Scott tuners really look the business Steven!    Very nice.

What about this one on the bay?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-H-H-Scott-LK-110-B-FM-tuner-/121287727675?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item1c3d4fda3b (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-H-H-Scott-LK-110-B-FM-tuner-/121287727675?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item1c3d4fda3b)


I also listen to mainly ABC Classic FM too (and sometimes a bit of Triple J :))    Wonderful selection of music.   I find it hard to listen to any of the pop stations while in the car.
Go here to learn about the scott tuners. The model to get is the one with the valves rectifier and volume control. Scott 350 is nice or the Scott LT110

http://fmamradios.com/TunerHistory.html
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on March 04, 2014, 11:16:17 PM
wow those Scott tuners really look the business Steven!    Very nice.

What about this one on the bay?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-H-H-Scott-LK-110-B-FM-tuner-/121287727675?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item1c3d4fda3b (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-H-H-Scott-LK-110-B-FM-tuner-/121287727675?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item1c3d4fda3b)


I also listen to mainly ABC Classic FM too (and sometimes a bit of Triple J :))    Wonderful selection of music.   I find it hard to listen to any of the pop stations while in the car.
That scott is a LT110B not LK110B as stated in the Ebay add. Its the Kit version of the of the factory Scott 350B and both do not have a valve rectifier. Nice, but there is better.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on March 04, 2014, 11:35:06 PM
This is a nice Scott tuner

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/H-H-Scott-Stereomaster-Type-350-Wideband-FM-Multiplex-Stereo-Tube-Tuner-/390751338359?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item5afa983f77&nma=true&si=q6anHZg1n7uWDffkR5qLO5IwLS8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

But this is the one to get

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HH-Scott-310-E-310E-Stereo-Tube-FM-Tuner-Considered-Scotts-2nd-Best-Tube-Tuner-/121261252692?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item1c3bbbe054&nma=true&si=q6anHZg1n7uWDffkR5qLO5IwLS8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: Tuyen on March 05, 2014, 12:36:39 PM
Are these tube tuners much better sound quality wise than vintage solid state tuners Steven?  Do they require mcuh maintenance?  All the tubes long life type?



Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on March 05, 2014, 03:11:55 PM
Are these tube tuners much better sound quality wise than vintage solid state tuners Steven?  Do they require mcuh maintenance?  All the tubes long life type?
Are valve amps better than transistor. You need to re tube them, all the tubes are cheap and plentiful.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: Tuyen on March 05, 2014, 03:34:33 PM
Good to know Steven!  Will keep an eye out for these Scott units  and one or two models by Fisher too by my reading of these vintage tube tuners!

Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on March 05, 2014, 03:45:16 PM
Fisher tuners have a big following, I nearly grabbed one a few times, there is a lot of great vintage FM Stereo valve tuners out there. We need to do some homework, We must sort out the great from the junk. See what you can find. The best Scott's are great, because they sound excellent and they are cheap, $200-$400 for a good 350 or LT110.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on March 05, 2014, 03:59:47 PM
I guess the question is, are these tuners good enough for quality music reproduction, well the answer is YES, particularly with live ABC classical broadcast the sound quality is superb, and just listening to unheard music most of the time is fantastic. A must have, but getting a good one is the problem, I have found a place in Melbourne that fixes and recalibrates Vintage valve Stereo FM tuners.  DADA electronics run by old man with a passion for vintage quality valve electronics.

http://www.dadaelectronics.eu/ContactUs.htm
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: Tuyen on March 05, 2014, 07:07:20 PM
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=87716.0 (http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=87716.0)

I went for the "cool" factor and got a Scott LT-110 at a hamfest a couple of years ago for a few bucks because the guy was honest and said it was not working. I set it to X-Tuners or something like that and it was fixed, updated and aligned. Came back sounding really good until.....I got a squeezebox Duet and now I listen to my favorite radio station over the internet feed because it sounds so much better.  Not as cool as tuning a dial and watching the pretty lights and meter, but a whole lot better sounding.
My scott will be on ebay soon


I guess not everyone appreciates the vintage tube sound. Lol!
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on March 05, 2014, 07:25:26 PM
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=87716.0 (http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=87716.0)

I went for the "cool" factor and got a Scott LT-110 at a hamfest a couple of years ago for a few bucks because the guy was honest and said it was not working. I set it to X-Tuners or something like that and it was fixed, updated and aligned. Came back sounding really good until.....I got a squeezebox Duet and now I listen to my favorite radio station over the internet feed because it sounds so much better.  Not as cool as tuning a dial and watching the pretty lights and meter, but a whole lot better sounding.
My scott will be on ebay soon


I guess not everyone appreciates the vintage tube sound. Lol!
Tuyen, there is always a dickhead somewhere. Just read some of the forums and you quickly realize how many audiophiles are deaf, because of that, they have very poor systems. How many people have recommended something to you, only for you to find there idea of great is mediocre. It comes down each individuals level of performance. A lot of people think there poor sounding system is just great, why do they think that, because they have never heard a great one. Some of these people are old and have high frequency roll off, and need to hear lots of leading edge attack so they need a product that has a boast in that area, (ie Modern Dacs) then these same people recommend stuff to fellow audiophiles. Most of us with normal hearing will find these products objectionable. These tuners are capable of great sound, in the right hands
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on March 05, 2014, 11:47:31 PM
Some interesting stuff about vintage Scott valve tuners


 Scott
 Mono: 310, 314, 320, 330 (schematic), 330C (schematic and alignment guide), 350, LT-10 (schematic, instruction book)
 Stereo: 310E (service bulletin and schematic), 333A (schematic), 335, 350B (schematic), 350C (schematic), 370-B (service bulletin and schematic), 4310, LT-110 (schematic), LT-111

Scott's tube tuners were almost all the 3XX series, with popular models like the 310A/B/C/D/E and 350A/B/C. The exception was their kits, which had LT in the model number - like LT-10, LT-110 and LT-111. The LT-111 was the kit version of the 370. For more information on Scott tuners, Lee Shuster's H.H. Scott website and John Byrne's site are "must-reads." Here's something to make you say "wow": A Scott 4310 sold for $2,582 on eBay in 5/05.

Our panellist Bob rebuilt a Scott 335 and got to like it. "I have it hooked to the H detector output on the Kenwood 600T. It needs a LOT of caps replaced to sound good - there are 5 ceramics and 3 old Mylar in the signal path that have to go because they make it sound horrible stock. But after replacing caps, and a few other things, and a good alignment, it is a really nice sounding unit for perhaps the best of everything. One hang-up, though, is that it absolutely NEEDS to be aligned to a particular tuner - the separation adjustment is a function of the incoming 19 kHz pilot level, so you need to know the tuner output level, or better, have the tuner on hand, to do the best alignment. Those that like tubes may want to grab one when convenient."

Our contributor Larry has one of the Scott 350 series tuners, "a stereo unit with excellent soundstage and tonality. Cap upgrades and tube choices really make a difference here - I used Angela Audio foil in oil caps for the signal path, and primo NOS tubes all around. The 350 sounds better than the Marantz 2130 to me."

Our contributor Eli has a Scott 320: "It's an AM/FM mono tuner with two AM bandwidths, a 6BR5 (EM80) tuning tube, a copper-plated sub chassis for the RF section and two sets of audio outputs (low and high) along with an MPX output and stereo inputs to receive the output of an external MPX adaptor. The front panel is thin and very easily dented. Unusual for a Scott tube tuner, it has a slide rule tuning display instead of a rotary dial."

John Byrns comments, "The Scott 310E uses the same RF, IF, and detector circuits as the 4310, but uses a completely different FM stereo multiplex decoder of a later more refined design than the one used in the 4310. The different multiplex decoder designs may affect the relative Sonics of the two tuners. The 310E multiplex decoder was the pinnacle of Scott multiplex decoder design, and later Scott tube tuners and receivers used multiplex circuits that were cost optimized."

John also describes the differences among the various models of 350 and 350x: "The original 350 was based on the monophonic 314 which had a cascade RF stage using a dual triode tube, a triode local oscillator and a pentode mixer, with two pentode IF stages and a pentode limiter driving a wide band ratio detector. There was a large open space on the 314 chassis intended for a multiplex decoder module, and the 350 was essentially a 311 with the 4-tube multiplex sub-chassis from the 335 multiplex decoder bolted into the open space on the 314 chassis. The limiter was also changed from the pentode limiter of the 314 to a 6BN6 gated beam limiter in the 350, and additional shielding was added around the IF stages. The 314's tuning eye tube was also replaced with a tuning meter in the 350.

"The 6BN6 gated beam limiter used in the 350 was dropped in the 350B which went back to the original pentode limiter. The 350B also used a higher gm. 1st IF tube, although some 350Bs may have also been built with the old standby 6AU6 1st IF tube. The 4-tube multiplex decoder module was replaced with a virtually identical 3-tube design that moved the audio output tube to the main tuner chassis. I assume this change in the multiplex module was made to facilitate its use in receivers where the audio stage would have been redundant. The 3-tube multiplex module differed from the 4-tube module in two ways in addition to the deletion of the audio stage. First, it added switching and some capacitors to create the 'Sonic Monitor' which was Scott's system for identifying stereo broadcasts. Second, the L/C ratio of at least one of the 19/38 kHz tank circuits was changed, presumably to improve the 38 kHz subcarrier recovery.

"The 350C was much like the 350B, but got the new Scott cosmetics, and the limiter was changed to a 6U8 based dual limiter with a diode limiter followed by a pentode limiter. The multiplex module was as in the 350B. Allied radio sold a special version of the 350C with 350B cosmetics, and labelled as a 350B, although it had the new 350C limiter circuit. The 350D dropped the traditional Scott circular dial, which seemed to be a turnoff for many people, and replaced it with a standard slide rule dial to be more competitive in the market. The 350D also used a new simplified multiplex decoder module with automatic stereo/mono switching. The 350D was the only tuner in the 350 series to offer automatic stereo/mono switching."

Here's John again (perhaps we need to give him his own page?): "The LT-10 is essentially a kit version of the 314, the only two differences I know of being that the tuning 'eye' tube in the 314 was replaced by a tuning meter in the LT-10, and the original LT-10 had a brown painted face plate while the 314 had the brushed gold colour. The [stereo] LT-110B was much like a kit version of the 350B. There were two circuit variations of the LT-110, the main difference being the multiplex sub chassis and 'Sonic Monitor' circuit, as in the 350 vs. 350B. The IF/limiter stages of the LT-110B were unlike those of either the 350 or 350B, using three 6AU6 pentodes, the final one as the limiter, as in the original 311. I can't remember if the 'B' designation on the LT-110B refers to the circuit change, or if it only designates the later change to the new styling. Also I forgot to mention that the original 350 used a tube rectifier while the 350B, and later models used a solid state rectifier, IIRC the original LT-110 also used a tube rectifier and the LT-110 with the revised circuit and the LT-110B used solid state rectifiers.

"As far as performance differences between the LT-110 and the 350-D, I haven't had any personal experience with the 350-D, but I would expect that the difference was insignificant as far as RF performance goes. I could never tell the difference performance-wise between the LT-10 and the 310-D even though the 310-D had an extra IF filter and two more tubes in the IF/limiter stages. Theory says the 310-D should have a little more selectivity, but the LT-10 was equally sensitive in my experience. The 310-D did have some extra bells and whistles, though, including a squelch circuit. There could be a difference in the sound quality of the LT-110 vs. the 350-D due to the considerable differences in the multiplex circuits the two tuners use, but as I said I have no experience with the 350-D so I don't know one way or the other. I do prefer the sound of the multiplex circuit in the 310-E to that of the 350(B,C), but the 310-E multiplex is a more sophisticated multiplex decoder design than either the 350(B,C) or the 350-D design. My ideal Scott tuner would be an LT-10 with the 310-E multiplex circuit in it. The 350-D seems to be a somewhat rare tuner, I assume because the 312 came out about the same time as the 350-D, so why would anyone buy an old technology tuner like the 350-D when they could have a nice modern transistorized 312, unless saving a few dollars was important."

More from John: "I was able to locate a schematic for the original no suffix Scott 330 AM/FM tuner on the web, and it has a bypass capacitor across the cathode resistor of the first FM IF stage. My speculation is that this bypass capacitor was part of Scott's original first generation design and was then deleted from the later revised follow-on models. The cathode bypass capacitor was only used in the very early models and hence is infrequently seen."
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on March 16, 2014, 02:47:39 AM
Nice kit Scott tuner, its one of the right models, but this one is without the 6X4 valve rectifier, still great sound, but wait for the right model. Nice postage price.


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VINTATGE-SCOTT-TYPE-LT-110-WIDEBAND-FM-MULTIPLEX-STEREO-TUNER-/360881267708?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item54063323fc
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: Tuyen on March 17, 2014, 01:22:53 PM
Hi Steven,

Would this unit be better choice than this Dynaco FM-3 Stereo tuner which does use valve rectification?

http://audioasylumtrader.com/ca/listing/Tuner/Dynaco/FM-3/Stereo-FM-Tube-Tuner/100774 (http://audioasylumtrader.com/ca/listing/Tuner/Dynaco/FM-3/Stereo-FM-Tube-Tuner/100774)

Scott's face does look much prettier.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on March 17, 2014, 02:00:37 PM
Tuyen, that dynaco looks good, There is only one why to find out and that is a side be side comparison. Generally on say ebay, most of the time but not always, price can often give you an indication of sound quality but sometime this can get mixed up with collector value. You can also say, collector value is dictated by sound quality. My Scott LT110, has 11 valves, the Scott 350, 10 valves. The best Scott 310E has 15 valve so does that mean more valves equates to better sound. Scott is famous for there great tuners, is dynaco famous for there tuners.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: Tuyen on April 08, 2014, 06:00:40 PM
My days with the Accuphase tuner are nearing a end.  I need a replacement fm stereo tuner.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/H-H-Scott-Stereo-Master-Type-350B-Wideband-FM-Multiplex-Tube-Receiver-Tuner-/221412101484?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item338d308d6c&_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/H-H-Scott-Stereo-Master-Type-350B-Wideband-FM-Multiplex-Tube-Receiver-Tuner-/221412101484?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item338d308d6c&_uhb=1)

Good condition this one. Pity not the version with valve rect.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on April 08, 2014, 07:44:18 PM
My days with the Accuphase tuner are nearing a end.  I need a replacement fm stereo tuner.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/H-H-Scott-Stereo-Master-Type-350B-Wideband-FM-Multiplex-Tube-Receiver-Tuner-/221412101484?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item338d308d6c&_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/H-H-Scott-Stereo-Master-Type-350B-Wideband-FM-Multiplex-Tube-Receiver-Tuner-/221412101484?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item338d308d6c&_uhb=1)

Good condition this one. Pity not the version with valve rect.
That is a nice tuner and the price is right, very tempting, but as you say, no valve rectifier. If it was the right model, a 350 I would grab it.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: Tuyen on April 14, 2014, 12:03:59 PM
I just won a LT-110 for bit over $100. woohoo!  Unfortunately it seems like it isn't the version with the tube rectification.  Oh well.  Hopefully it shall still suffice :)

(http://www.lodestarauctions.com/express/69/875%20(1).jpg)

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Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: Jehuty on April 14, 2014, 02:17:05 PM
Very nice Tuyen!
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on April 14, 2014, 04:09:16 PM
Nice tuyen. You cant complain about the price. I am having my Scott LT110 completely rebuilt via a scott expert, and when finished, I do not need two, and will sell it. It's in very good condition. But needed to be realigned for perfect FM. Its a one off with 11 tubes.

Dada Electronics Australia
 Esmond Pitt
 286 Canterbury Rd
 St Kilda West
 Victoria 3182
 Australia
 +61 3 9534 8575
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: Tuyen on April 14, 2014, 04:39:07 PM
cheers men.    oh bugger if only I knew you were selling, may of been worth waiting for.   but then again,  in it's condition and accounting for the rebuild,  it probably be out of my budget!

do you know if there is any issue with US tuners working on Australian frequencies?    what sonic symptoms are apparent when a tuner is off alignment?        I'm basically just wanting this tuner for abc classic fm, so won't be constantly moving the dial anywhere after I have the station locked in.

cheers!
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on April 16, 2014, 06:37:08 PM
 Here is the right model Scott tuner on EBAY, a factory 350 with the right bits, a 6x4 valve rectifier and volume control, Nice . Get it.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HH-SCOTT-STEREOMASTER-350-FM-TUBE-TUNER-FOR-INTEGRATED-TUBE-AMPLIFIER-/221417209024?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item338d7e7cc0
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: Tuyen on April 25, 2014, 09:16:50 AM
Have received my lt-110 yesterday. Needs a good clean and check before hook king it upto the system. Bit excited!


I found the following interesting from this ebay seller who is selling both the LT-110 (no tube rect) to the 350 which uses tube rect.

After many hours of A/B comparisons between a LT-110 and a factory-wired 350B, we found that the kit version had a definite sonic advantage. The LT-110 was more engaging, and its soundstage was wider. The LT-110, it has a warmth of soul, with reasonably extended highs, an excellent midrange, and round, full bass with a slight mid-bass hump. This unit is not at all fatiguing, and seems more musical than the 350B. I have been told that the LT-110 has several small electronic differences, which may account for its superior performance.

The 350B exhibited a small  idiosyncrasy involving the brass tuning knob. As I rotated the knob, I became part of the antenna system, with some strange sonic results. This did not occur with the plastic tuning dial on the LT-110. The Scott LT-110 is a wonderful example of FM technology that compares very favorably with more sophisticated tuners.


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HH-Scott-LT-110-FM-Multiplex-Wideband-Stereo-FM-Tube-Tuner-in-wood-veneer-cab-/111334350626?pt=US_Radio_Tuners&hash=item19ec0b5f22&_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HH-Scott-LT-110-FM-Multiplex-Wideband-Stereo-FM-Tube-Tuner-in-wood-veneer-cab-/111334350626?pt=US_Radio_Tuners&hash=item19ec0b5f22&_uhb=1)

Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: Jehuty on April 25, 2014, 01:03:36 PM
Here is the right model Scott tuner on EBAY, a factory 350 with the right bits, a 6x4 valve rectifier and volume control, Nice . Get it.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HH-SCOTT-STEREOMASTER-350-FM-TUBE-TUNER-FOR-INTEGRATED-TUBE-AMPLIFIER-/221417209024?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item338d7e7cc0

Did anyone here get this? So cheap!
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: Tuyen on April 26, 2014, 07:42:24 PM
(http://i58.tinypic.com/2czeot1.jpg)

It works!   Listening to jazz track on abc at the moment. Nice. Thanks again for the recommendation Steven
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on April 26, 2014, 07:50:04 PM
Tuyen why do you listen standing on your head, or is your room upside down, or have you bolted your system to the roof.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: Tuyen on April 28, 2014, 03:30:59 PM
haha sorry Steven.   ipad camera sucks.  I will invest in a better camera one day.

Any particular tube combo you can recommend that you have found works well?

Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: kajak12 on April 28, 2014, 09:49:34 PM
Tuyen why do you listen standing on your head, or is your room upside down, or have you bolted your system to the roof.
Tuyen is hoping for some change to fall from his pockets so he can buy more hifi....................
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on May 01, 2014, 04:00:44 PM


Any particular tube combo you can recommend that you have found works well?
tuyen,  I have all the tubes you need, and they are not dear. Check on prices via ebay. Unlikely all the ones in your tuner are fine. You need a valve tester. Get Mario to test them. There is no holly grail for the tube combination, very system dependant.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on May 24, 2014, 04:18:11 AM
Here is the big one. The Scott 310E Very tempted to bid, but I will only be adding to my addiction for audio toys. Anyway it is the one to get.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/141288798238?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on June 12, 2014, 08:03:13 PM
Nice tuyen. You cant complain about the price. I am having my Scott LT110 completely rebuilt via a scott expert, and when finished, I do not need two, and will sell it. It's in very good condition. But needed to be realigned for perfect FM. Its a one off with 11 tubes.

Dada Electronics Australia
 Esmond Pitt
 286 Canterbury Rd
 St Kilda West
 Victoria 3182
 Australia
 +61 3 9534 8575
Got the Scott LT110 stereo FM tuner back. He said every aliment parameter that could be out, was out. I tubed the tuner with quality valves, now on live ABC classical performances, its all quality sound. Esmond is highly Recommended. 
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: omodo on July 10, 2014, 07:54:47 PM
curious (& noob question), what are you guys using for aerials?
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on July 10, 2014, 08:41:35 PM
curious (& noob question), what are you guys using for aerials?
I am using a 300 ohm to 75 ohm splitter, then its connected to a Huge analog and FM TV aerial .
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: Tuyen on July 11, 2014, 03:44:17 PM
Currently using indoor rabbit ears + Magnum Dynalab Signal Sleuth (http://www.magnumdynalab.com/x_sleuth.htm (http://www.magnumdynalab.com/x_sleuth.htm))

But in previous house, had proper outdoor FM antenna installed.   Will eventually end up doing the same in current place.
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Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: omodo on July 11, 2014, 03:50:14 PM
thanks guys, might have to see if our antenna is FM capable and/or do something similar
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on August 05, 2014, 07:44:19 PM
I have been changing the valves in the realigned and checked Scott LT110 stereo FM tuner, I have put in some some tasty valves. Luckily the valves for the Scott are cheap, even for the best, Mainly Mullards Brimar amperex tubes. One important spot is the 12at7, The Brimar 6060 with the big T is superb. It now approaches CD quality on a live broadcast. I will give a list of the best valve compilation later
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: klackto on August 05, 2014, 11:58:59 PM
Hi Steven
Are the capacitors stock or have you upgraded some?
I'm often surprised how good my Mac MR65 sounds ... all stock, probably very tired electros, dirty tuning capacitor but it sfill make music.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on April 07, 2015, 05:12:37 PM
Guys, This is a 1946 Scott radio,This radio is considered the Stradivarius of radios, i will probably never see another in my lifetime. It comes in 3 pieces with a brilliant AM FM tuner, (pictured). It comes with a separate amplifier, and 15 inch Jenson driver. This is considered the pinnacle of radio build quality and sound, according the radio folk lore after around 1947, the quality of radio's took a big slide all, the way into the modern world. This thing is a 24 valve chromed masterpiece built for the rich at that time. The word used to described its sound (via the owners) is Magnificat. More pictures of the rest of it soon.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on April 07, 2015, 05:54:07 PM
Here is the amp, It is a push/pull 6L6 Probably about 40 watts,  lots of valves, again lots of chrome.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: klackto on April 07, 2015, 10:44:25 PM
Just beautiful.
That's a Chicago Scott made by the company started by EH Scott ... truly Rolls-Royce stuff.
Unrelated to HH Scott who made the tuners we've seen on this thread so far.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on April 08, 2015, 12:36:51 PM
Just beautiful.
That's a Chicago Scott made by the company started by EH Scott ... truly Rolls-Royce stuff.
Unrelated to HH Scott who made the tuners we've seen on this thread so far.
I love a man who know his stuff Les, all true. The pictures do not do it justice, it's almost mint, and best of all it works. I will replace some caps, probably for Jensen's, it's just an amazing piece of work. EH Scott was apparently a fanatic.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: klackto on April 08, 2015, 01:21:43 PM
I'm envious : )   Love to hear it next time I visit.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on April 08, 2015, 05:00:02 PM
Here are some pictures of the Jenson driver, should it be field coil. 
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: omodo on April 09, 2015, 03:23:22 PM
looks alnico to me, at least going by the welded magnet cover? the big wirewound resistor mounted to the cover is probably to replicate the resistance of the missing field coil... I've got a couple of Jensen P15LL drivers which look very similar
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on April 09, 2015, 08:31:21 PM
Under the radio, it only shows one layer, great condition for the age. It's hard to believe its made in 1946.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on April 09, 2015, 08:34:31 PM
Under the amp, and one more under the Radio
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: vitavoxdude on April 10, 2015, 05:08:36 PM
Yes agree Omodo, definitely not a FC driver but an Alnico powered driver.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: onthebeach on April 10, 2015, 05:37:20 PM
This beast is a true work of art. Steven stopped over at my place for a couple of nights on his way back down the coast and he bought this in and unwrapped it. We just stared at it for so long our wives thought we were mad. This thing is THE most mint thing from 1947 imaginable. It looks like it was made, wrapped up and unwrapped a month ago. Its simply beautiful.
If it sounds anything like it looks esp after cap replacements it is going to bring tears to the eyes. 
And its FM!!!
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on April 10, 2015, 07:38:03 PM
Yes agree Omodo, definitely not a FC driver but an Alnico powered driver.
Yes I know is alnico, but I was thinking in 1946-47 should it be a field coil driver. I have check around and it looks to be the original driver
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: vitavoxdude on April 12, 2015, 05:05:38 PM
Jensen speakers usually have a date code on the rim.  Two different mountings (Screws and  nutted bolts) may suggest this is not the original driver, that along with the power resistor on the magnet.  As the FC was originally used as an inductor for the power supply, maybe this is why the resistor has been needed?
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on May 25, 2015, 02:06:47 PM
I finally scored a Scott 310E. This is Scott's finest ever tuner, it originally stated out as a Wide-Band 4310 Broadcast Stereo FM Multiplex Tuner for radio stations, unlike the 4310 it was built on a normal size Scott tuner chassis, they shoe horned the internals into a standard domestic base and this is the result, The 310E was made for a limited time in 1963.  This is a 15 valve masterpiece, a real collectors item, and expensive.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: vitavoxdude on May 25, 2015, 03:20:59 PM
Congratulations on your new purchase.  Have you checked out all the valves and caps yet?  Mine appears to be totally original as virtually all the solder joints have a dab of red paint on them.  Lost of silver mica caps too.  IS this your final tuner Steve??????
V
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on May 25, 2015, 10:17:57 PM
Congratulations on your new purchase.  Have you checked out all the valves and caps yet?  Mine appears to be totally original as virtually all the solder joints have a dab of red paint on them.  Lost of silver mica caps too.  IS this your final tuner Steve??????
V
V what model tuner do you have. That is an actual picture of the tuner, Needs a plate over the tuner dial,  I will have it soon. here is the add with valve list.

Up for sale is the H.H. Scott 310E FM-MPX Stereo Broadcast Monitor Tuner.  The 310E was built from 1963-1964 and is considered by many to be Scott's finest performing tuner.  This unit is in exceptional condition and is plug and play.  The lettering on the faceplate is absolutely flawless and faceplate glistens like new. It has recently been fully serviced at Stereorelab (full mechanical and electrical alignment):
•Full alignment of RF & IF stages
•Multiplex alignment
•Tuning capacitor shaft resurfaced prior to alignment
•Tuner mechanically aligned for accurate indication of station
•All pots and switches cleaned with deoxit
•Tubes have been tested on a maintained and calibrated Hickok 799 and replaced as necessary (brands below)
◦6V4 - Mullard
◦12AT7 - GE
◦12AX7 - Telefunken
◦12AU7 - Telefunken
◦6AU6 - HH Scott Branded
◦6BN6 - GE
◦6AU6 - HH Scott Branded
◦6AU6 - HH Scott Branded
◦6AU6 - Daystrom
◦6U8 - Telefunken
◦12AU7 - HH Scott Branded
◦6U8 - Telefunken
◦6BS8 - HH Scott Branded
◦2 x 7247 - Electro Harmonix

This unit truly functions like new and is backed by a one year warranty from Stereorehab of Chicago
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: vitavoxdude on May 26, 2015, 01:26:44 PM
Scottsman 350 with the Valve rectifier.  Broken dial like most of them have but totally original and 110 volts.  I like the red nail varnish on all solder joints, if only other manufacturers would take as much trouble.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on May 26, 2015, 10:14:42 PM
That is the good one V, factory Scott, nice. Apparently there is a company in the states that hots them right up, many audiophiles feel these reach best there is status, Re-tubing does make a big improvement, let's start with the right tubes, a super important valve is the output 12AT7 position, the tube to get is the 1950-60s  Brimar early black plate copper rod 6060-12AT7 with the big yellow T, there are other numbers as well. Gamve put me on to them. Very good, the best I have tried.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on May 27, 2015, 09:39:47 PM
Some info on the Scott 310E. Try to find one for under $100, I like the vintage look, he does not.

The 310E

The 310E was made for a limited time in 1963. It is my favourite Scott tuner. I like it so much, I sold my Magnum Dynalab Ft101, in favor of the 310E in my main system. It brought in almost as many stations as the Dynalab (43 stations to 45 for the Dynalab), and did it with more musical sound. It is as drift-free as the 310C or the Dynalab, and best of all, it was cheap - $75. The 310E is more neutral than the 310C. Gone is the mid-bass hump, and excess warmth. The 310E has a more extended top end than the 310C. Its' top end extension is the equal of the Magnum Dynalab FT 101. The 310E has a slightly more spacious soundstage than the 310C, and more apparent depth than the Dynalab. While the Dynalab is certainly not raspy or hard, like many solid-state tuners (the Sony STJ-75 comes to mind), it sounds somewhat raspy compared to the 310E.

 The only negative about the 310E is its looks. It resembles, not so much the middle period Scott tuners, like the 350, as the early solid-state models, like the 312. Gone are the curved corners and brass knobs. Instead we have plastic knobs with metal caps that come unglued and fall off, similar to the knobs the famous Fisher 500 series receivers. It is boxy, and squat, and even a well-finished wooden case won't help it much. Yup, it looks ugly, but sounds beautiful.

The 310E makes a very good argument for never spending more than $100 for a tube tuner. While I haven't done a mano-a-manos with Scott 4310s or Marantz 10Bs, I can't see why, other than collectors' mania, anyone would put out the big bucks for these pieces. The 310E blows away a stock Macintosh MR 71 tube tuner. The Scott receives more channels, with higher definition, more high-end extension, and better harmonic balance. The Mac sounds dark and harmonically constricted in comparison.

When I asked Daniel Von Recklinghausen, Scott's chief design engineer during the period of "classic" tube equipment, which Scott tuner he liked the best, he said, without hesitation, the 310E.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: klackto on July 02, 2015, 08:24:14 PM
Hey Steve ..... Has the 310e arrived yet?
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on July 02, 2015, 11:31:53 PM
Hey Steve ..... Has the 310e arrived yet?
Yes and its in very good condition, Pictures soon. Here is a top of the line Scott on ebay..... its debatable what is the better scott, 310E or this Scott 3410. This is the one to get.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/252010879473?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: klackto on July 04, 2015, 12:18:37 AM
That's nice too but I prefer the slightly less cluttered look of the 310e. Both gorgeous though.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: klackto on September 05, 2015, 06:40:05 PM
Hi Steve
How's the 310e sounding?
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on December 18, 2015, 02:23:52 PM
Hi Steve
How's the 310e sounding?
I must say after using this tuner for months and in the process of re-tubing it with the necessary brilliant valves, it's just an amazing sounding tuner, it does not drift and picks up radio stations like no other i have tried. Many radio heads feel this is the best tuner of all time and i can not argue with that. Where it really sets itself out from another tuners is its ability to sound smooth, refined, sophisticated, full and ordered, almost turntable like in its reproduction, my reception is poor so i can only imagine how it will sound with a great Arial 
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: Jehuty on December 18, 2015, 03:58:17 PM
I am just wondering what use is there for these nice vintage radios when they finally shut down AM/FM radio for good?  >:(

Norway is the first, who's next? http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-20/norway-to-turn-off-analog-fm-radio-in-sign-of-global-shift
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on December 18, 2015, 06:54:49 PM
I am just wondering what use is there for these nice vintage radios when they finally shut down AM/FM radio for good?  >:(

Norway is the first, who's next? http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-20/norway-to-turn-off-analog-fm-radio-in-sign-of-global-shift
If and when it happens there will be (i will wash my mouth out with soap) Digital to analog converters for sale, but from what i hear it's a down hill step. You just plug it in to your tuner and go.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: ozmillsy on June 15, 2016, 08:53:42 AM
If and when it happens there will be (i will wash my mouth out with soap) Digital to analog converters for sale, but from what i hear it's a down hill step. You just plug it in to your tuner and go.

Unless I am missing something,,  in that situation, the tuner isnt doing any tuning.

The digital tuner will be outputting an analog signal.   All it needs is preamp/amp etc.  No frequency tuning required.

It is a good question though.  I wonder what all the radio towers cost to maintain, and will those radio bands be better used for other purposes?
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: ozmillsy on June 16, 2016, 07:09:41 AM
Then again, we have a huge population that commutes via the car,,,  and there would be an outcry if everyone had to change their car radios.

Will it happen in the next 10 years?  Unlikely.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on June 17, 2016, 01:01:22 PM
Then again, we have a huge population that commutes via the car,,,  and there would be an outcry if everyone had to change their car radios.

Will it happen in the next 10 years?  Unlikely.
Yes that will be a problem in the future, i am not sure how it all works, but it's unlikely to be better.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: NoellEagan on October 25, 2017, 03:03:42 AM
Hi...i am a new user here. What sonic symptoms are apparent when a tuner is off alignment? I'm basically just wanting this tuner for abc classic fm, so won't be constantly moving the dial anywhere after I have the station locked in.
Title: Re: Scott Tuners
Post by: stevenvalve on October 25, 2017, 04:00:58 PM
Hi...i am a new user here. What sonic symptoms are apparent when a tuner is off alignment? I'm basically just wanting this tuner for abc classic fm, so won't be constantly moving the dial anywhere after I have the station locked in.
Hi Noel, i listen mainly to ABC classic fm as well. Is your tuner Valve, If so as the valves take time to warm up and will drift a little at the start. My tuner has been calibrated, but i still have to recenter the station one or two times after i start the tube Scott 310E, then it is fine for the rest of the day. My reception is poor and that does not help. The condition of the valves is important , if they need replacing or are out of specification, that will course problems, What brand is your tuner and is it transistor and is it drifting of the station and does it sound distorted.