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General HIFI => Transports => Topic started by: matt200sr on February 21, 2013, 10:59:33 PM
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Just picked up this recently and can't find much info about it. I assume it is a transport only version of a CD-94. No analouge section.
Anyone know much about these?
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lift the skirt, and show us the money shot Matt. 8)
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Will do as soon as I get home Wednesday - I am at work at the moment :'(
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Just picked up this recently and can't find much info about it. I assume it is a transport only version of a CD-94. No analouge section.
Anyone know much about these?
They look pretty good. There were a few models 99DR, 99SE and they look very well built.
I have no idea what the clock frequency is on them, couldn't find schem / serv manual.
Z
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Just picked up this recently and can't find much info about it. I assume it is a transport only version of a CD-94. No analouge section.
Anyone know much about these?
Yes two versions available - nice find, check out the vintage knob web site, they list there the details.
V
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cheers for the heads up vitavoxdude I'll check it out.
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seems they are quite rare going by this information
http://www.thevintageknob.org/marantz-CD-99SE.html
I still have to decide between the mint cd94 and mint cd960 to send to Terry... I can't decide ???
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this cd960 link makes me laugh
http://www.lampizator.eu/lampizator/REFERENCES/Philips%20CD960/philips%20high%20end%20cd%20player%20CD-960.html
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I still have to decide between the mint cd94 and mint cd960 to send to Terry... I can't decide ???
Choices, choices.
I'd send the cd94.
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I still have to decide between the mint cd94 and mint cd960 to send to Terry... I can't decide ???
Choices, choices.
I'd send the cd94.
Yup CD94 every time and I own both. Ultimately it's worth more so a better investment all round. The favorite track selector on the 960 can be handy though for weeding out those less desirable tracks. There are many upgrades that can be performed on either of these old machines and its easy to burn though 1K on quality parts and tweaks. Dont forget Zenelectros clock board :D as this will take it to places very few players can even hint at and bring a naturalness and organic richness and pace that is very rear indeed. 8)
I would also advise anyone contemplating such upgrades to hear a good SD card reader before parting with serious cash as they are err hmm, :o a significant step in the right direction with parts that do not wear out and are not almost unobtanium! Dear me that's almost blasphemy on this forum :P but IMV a good modern alternative which will also respond to tweaking, power supplies etc.
V
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I still have to decide between the mint cd94 and mint cd960 to send to Terry... I can't decide ???
Choices, choices.
I'd send the cd94.
Yup CD94 every time and I own both. Ultimately it's worth more so a better investment all round. The favorite track selector on the 960 can be handy though for weeding out those less desirable tracks. There are many upgrades that can be performed on either of these old machines and its easy to burn though 1K on quality parts and tweaks. Dont forget Zenelectros clock board :D as this will take it to places very few players can even hint at and bring a naturalness and organic richness and pace that is very rear indeed. 8)
I would also advise anyone contemplating such upgrades to hear a good SD card reader before parting with serious cash as they are err hmm, :o a significant step in the right direction with parts that do not wear out and are not almost unobtanium! Dear me that's almost blasphemy on this forum :P but IMV a good modern alternative which will also respond to tweaking, power supplies etc.
V
Mr V
I have a QA550 here somewhere and from memory it has an I2S OP and it runs off an 11.2896 clock.
I had forgotten about that thing but it could be made very very good with a clock / I2S OP board.
Too much stuff on ATM. New clocks are just about done and look really nice, layout even better this time.
cheers
Z
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Yup CD94 every time and I own both. Ultimately it's worth more so a better investment all round. The favorite track selector on the 960 can be handy though for weeding out those less desirable tracks. There are many upgrades that can be performed on either of these old machines and its easy to burn though 1K on quality parts and tweaks. Dont forget Zenelectros clock board :D as this will take it to places very few players can even hint at and bring a naturalness and organic richness and pace that is very rear indeed. 8)
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Zens clock with i2s is going in for sure as well as IEC connector install/fuse bypass etc. Any other mods he deems worthy. Craig has kindly offered to send some Oscan caps for the digital board - Thanks Craig/Mario, let me know the cost.
Any other mods I should do?
At the moment I am leaning toward the CD960 to apply the mods however the cd94 would look a lot better in my rack! The CD99DR would be good to keep in original form considering they are quite rare, perhaps even more hartd to find then cd94.
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Yup CD94 every time and I own both. Ultimately it's worth more so a better investment all round. The favorite track selector on the 960 can be handy though for weeding out those less desirable tracks. There are many upgrades that can be performed on either of these old machines and its easy to burn though 1K on quality parts and tweaks. Dont forget Zenelectros clock board :D as this will take it to places very few players can even hint at and bring a naturalness and organic richness and pace that is very rear indeed. 8)
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Zens clock with i2s is going in for sure as well as IEC connector install/fuse bypass etc. Any other mods he deems worthy. Craig has kindly offered to send some Oscan caps for the digital board - Thanks Craig/Mario, let me know the cost.
Any other mods I should do?
At the moment I am leaning toward the CD960 to apply the mods however the cd94 would look a lot better in my rack! The CD99DR would be good to keep in original form considering they are quite rare, perhaps even more hartd to find then cd94.
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Before you bypass fuse let me know what rating they are.
I had to source some super high surge rating fuses for medical applications, I think
they may be very good for this.
Z
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Sounds good Terry.
I won't be doing any mods.
I'll send the cd94 to you once I here from you after your break.
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Any other mods to do? ::)
Well forget the fuse and replace it with a resettable mini circuit breaker of the same current rating- much better and can act as a power switch too. Look at the voltage regs, sad 3 legged variety, try Teddy Regs - much better all round. The more you install the tighter clearer sound you get. Oscons and poly props, chokes, RF filtering, damping with lead to tune the CDM1 mech better (springs too firm to be effective), remove laser lens and clean thoroughly followed by a good polish. Chassis add mass with thick copper plate beneath and use 'still points' or similar below, remove mains transformer from PCB and install in exterior box or better still replace unit with a vintage higher VA plate and frame (say 100VA or better, the original ones have multiple taps so you may have to fit more than one transformer unless specialist wound - Steve G knows the bloke to do this) the distance between the transformer and rectifiers determines how high the distortion goes so keep leads short. The transformer secondary’s can be tuned too. Local decoupling caps, pick a flavour you like and use throughout. Green the drawer and install some green LED's in the drive bay, matt out the reflective parts of the transport. Fit new drive mech belts. Disable the analogue output section. and the best til last, install a Zen clock and feed the DAC with I2s via a decently short high quality cable, preferably screened - now you have a decent front end. Dead easy to blow a grand doing all this but it will reward you with a fine musical result.
You can look up the pooge series of articles from the Audio Amateur magazine as they went to town on a similar machine so lots of good advice there.
Enjoy ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
V
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It will take a me a fair while to get my head around that lot vitavoxdude!
In the mean time I will ask Terry to fit the clock and convert to IEC connector with the hope of implementing those mods in the future.
Cheers for the heads up! ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D
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can wait to see the money shot of the 99 matt.
8)
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As promised ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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few more
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It weighs in heavier than the CD-94, probably due to the cast iron cheeks!
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ohh cant wait to take it apart for a closer look 8) 8) 8)
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That can be arranged Mario ;)
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ohh cant wait to take it apart for a closer look 8) 8) 8)
I was just thinking,, wouldnt it be nice to see what is under those copper plates.
Always the way when Lifting the skirt. In the end, you just want to take it all off and start playing. 8)
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Are we still talking about transports? :P
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then you end up with kids and no more skirts (or hifi)
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Are we still talking about transports? :P
I was, what did you think I meant? :o 8) ;D
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where are ozmillsy's pics Mario? 8)
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where are ozmillsy's pics Mario? 8)
Load them up when i find my connection between phone and pc to upload
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where are ozmillsy's pics Mario? 8)
Ha. Well, I'm gunna have to insist on a "money shot" Matt. :) Take the copper plates off, it's a real tease with those plates covering everything up.
My pics, you can find some dac and cd94 pics in this thread,,,,,,
http://killerdac.com/forum/index.php?topic=136.0 (http://killerdac.com/forum/index.php?topic=136.0)
And I also did a thread on cd960 mods,,,,,
http://killerdac.com/forum/index.php?topic=6.0 (http://killerdac.com/forum/index.php?topic=6.0)
And then there is the Tannoy thread, more pics in there,,,,,
http://killerdac.com/forum/index.php?topic=738.msg11095#msg11095 (http://killerdac.com/forum/index.php?topic=738.msg11095#msg11095)
There's a couple of other threads with pics, cable threads etc, but the above shows the main components.
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where are ozmillsy's pics Mario? 8)
Load them up when i find my connection between phone and pc to upload
Send them to my phone I will upload them
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Here it is Oz :o
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where are ozmillsy's pics Mario? 8)
Ha. Well, I'm gunna have to insist on a "money shot" Matt. :) Take the copper plates off, it's a real tease with those plates covering everything up.
My pics, you can find some dac and cd94 pics in this thread,,,,,,
http://killerdac.com/forum/index.php?topic=136.0 (http://killerdac.com/forum/index.php?topic=136.0)
And I also did a thread on cd960 mods,,,,,
http://killerdac.com/forum/index.php?topic=6.0 (http://killerdac.com/forum/index.php?topic=6.0)
And then there is the Tannoy thread, more pics in there,,,,,
http://killerdac.com/forum/index.php?topic=738.msg11095#msg11095 (http://killerdac.com/forum/index.php?topic=738.msg11095#msg11095)
There's a couple of other threads with pics, cable threads etc, but the above shows the main components.
Pics look great Oz
Some great ideas with the transport there!
Waiting on my killerdac now ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Here it is Oz :o
Hmmmm, looks good. Less congested than a cd94 with it's analog output stage cluttering things up. The power input looks like a newer design too.
Bloody nice unit. I can understand wanting to keep it mint.
But if you want the ultimate performance/sound, I'd seriously considering getting that one hot rodded.
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Hmmmm, looks good. Less congested than a cd94 with it's analog output stage cluttering things up. The power input looks like a newer design too.
Bloody nice unit. I can understand wanting to keep it mint.
But if you want the ultimate performance/sound, I'd seriously considering getting that one hot rodded.
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That is exactly what Craig and Mario said. Just seems a shame!
I think the CD-94 will be the one to get hot rodded.
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Holy Crap !
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Classic-Marantz-CD94-CD-Player-UNUSE-/281080741624?pt=US_CD_Players_Recorders&hash=item4171b7bef8#ht_818wt_1397
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Nice! If only it was champagne gold colour...
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This player is bloody good via spdif into pdx. I have new power conditioner/cables too massive improvement very sublime much lees digi sounding :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D
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Holy Crap !
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Classic-Marantz-CD94-CD-Player-UNUSE-/281080741624?pt=US_CD_Players_Recorders&hash=item4171b7bef8#ht_818wt_1397
Wow! Why has it not sold ... even to one of us? The price seems reasonable given its condition...
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Holy Crap !
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Classic-Marantz-CD94-CD-Player-UNUSE-/281080741624?pt=US_CD_Players_Recorders&hash=item4171b7bef8#ht_818wt_1397
Wow! Why has it not sold ... even to one of us? The price seems reasonable given its condition...
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It's not selectable for 240 volts, like most 94s. Its a 94, not a Mark 2, that means there is only 1 non crown chip, mark 2 has 2 - single crown chips.
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CD-94 Mk1
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=161014618180&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en
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and matching DAC
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Marantz-CDA94-DAC-/161014632177?pt=UK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_CDPlayerSeparates&hash=item257d384ef1
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If you check they are not willing to send to Oz :-X :'(