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Transports / Re: Raspberry PI transport with I2S output into TDA1541A
« Last post by ozmillsy on November 14, 2019, 05:55:44 PM »
Quote from: zenelectro on November 12, 2019, 01:56:37 PM
There are a few Ethernet options out there, it depends how you want to set the system up. The best are pretty expensive.
I have been impressed enough with Roon, to license it.

In terms of cost, there are 2 aspects.to consider,.  Software licensing and hardware setup.

Roon software is $100 a year subscription.  I find this cost quite reasonable, given what it brings to the table.

Hardware, you need .....
* Endpoints (ie: the Pi device etc)
* Rock server (Can be sourced cheaply, I got mine for $150)
* NAS storage (I already had it, but can be found cheap on gumtree)



I had a few.squeezebox devices, and they have been repurposed as Roon endpoints.   So I can send my music all over the house.     And every smart device in the house, can hook in and queue music, in any given room.    I really love it.
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Transports / Re: Raspberry PI transport with I2S output into TDA1541A
« Last post by ozmillsy on November 14, 2019, 05:39:51 PM »
Quote from: zenelectro on November 12, 2019, 01:56:37 PM
The Pi looks good but the only thing I'm not sure about is if it has galvanic isolation. This makes things more complicated
as you have to send clocks -> back over isolators to wher I2S is generated. JLsounds does all of this.
Yep, sure does. It is a modular design, where little boards can be stacked..

They have a (galvanic) isolator board that can be inserted in between the Pi board and the Kali reclocker.

I haven't tried it yet, but it can be added fairly simply.    I think it would mean adding another power source.   So I would power the Pi off the mains, and reclocker off battery.

It already sounds significantly better than the modded cd94 I was using, without using the isolator on my Pi.

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Transports / Re: Raspberry PI transport with I2S output into TDA1541A
« Last post by data on November 14, 2019, 03:57:43 PM »
Only problem is I don't have a DAC, only a CD Player that contains a DAC.

I'll just continue spinning CD's with the player ;)
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Transports / Re: Raspberry PI transport with I2S output into TDA1541A
« Last post by zenelectro on November 13, 2019, 10:20:44 AM »
Quote from: data on November 12, 2019, 09:07:29 PM
Hi, Danny
Could I add one of these to my Marantz CD player to add usb input, would it need to connect in simultaneous mode directly to the TDA1541A?

I'm trying to work out how much messing around I'd need to do to add USB input to my CD player and be able to switch between CD playback and USB.

Is it possible with this I2SoverUSB v.III ?

I was thinking it might be easier if it could connect after the SAA7310GP and before the position where the SAA7220P/B used to occupy, but that would be i2s wouldn't it?

Sorry, I'm limited in my understanding of these system BUS's.

Cheers
Ian

Any advise would be appreciated :)

Play your CD's on your computer or rip them to your computers HDD.

USB from your computer -> DAC using a good USB bridge is superior to CD player. 

TCD





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Transports / Re: Raspberry PI transport with I2S output into TDA1541A
« Last post by data on November 12, 2019, 09:07:29 PM »
Quote from: dannydigital on August 07, 2019, 03:19:04 PM
This may provide a lower jitter option;

http://jlsounds.com/i2soverusb.html

 ::)
Hi, Danny
Could I add one of these to my Marantz CD player to add usb input, would it need to connect in simultaneous mode directly to the TDA1541A?

I'm trying to work out how much messing around I'd need to do to add USB input to my CD player and be able to switch between CD playback and USB.

Is it possible with this I2SoverUSB v.III ?

I was thinking it might be easier if it could connect after the SAA7310GP and before the position where the SAA7220P/B used to occupy, but that would be i2s wouldn't it?

Sorry, I'm limited in my understanding of these system BUS's.

Cheers
Ian

Any advise would be appreciated :)
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Transports / Re: Raspberry PI transport with I2S output into TDA1541A
« Last post by zenelectro on November 12, 2019, 01:56:37 PM »
Quote from: ozmillsy on November 10, 2019, 10:02:04 AM
I can't wait for these developments to happen.

But I am wondering if USB is redundant?

It's very frustrating, especially the Pro side of things having gone through 1394 (firewire), thunderbolt, USB etc
We all should be using Ethernet. I could never work out why dig audio over Ethernet took so long, it has huge BW and is reliable.

There are a few Ethernet options out there, it depends how you want to set the system up. The best are pretty expensive.

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It's ok if you dont mind sitting a laptop computer in your audio system.   

But that isn't ideal, from my perspective.  And driving a keyboard and mouse, to queue music, detracts from my personal enjoyment of the music.

The Pi device I am using, doesn't require USB.

Roon backend queues the music, sends the data over the network to the Pi,,, the Pi receives/buffers/reclocks and sends it directly out the i2s outputs.

I am not suggesting it is technically superior.   But I am suggesting that having to handle a laptop computer in the audio system isn't required.


The Pi looks good but the only thing I'm not sure about is if it has galvanic isolation. This makes things more complicated
as you have to send clocks -> back over isolators to wher I2S is generated. JLsounds does all of this.

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Transports / Re: Raspberry PI transport with I2S output into TDA1541A
« Last post by ozmillsy on November 10, 2019, 10:09:14 AM »
Quote from: stevenvalve on October 24, 2019, 02:11:56 PM
Noooooooooooo. But next on the agenda is one like yours.

We should compare them Steve.

I think Danny's board will sound better.   But I wonder how far behind the Pi is?

I have a spare Roon server and Nas, I can bring them to your place with the Pi, and we'll do some testing.
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Transports / Re: Raspberry PI transport with I2S output into TDA1541A
« Last post by ozmillsy on November 10, 2019, 10:02:04 AM »
Quote from: zenelectro on October 25, 2019, 11:26:51 AM
Just implement what you have properly and you will be done.
 
There are quite a few possible options with 1541 up to full
stereo, 2 chips in simultaneous mode. 

I have just finished upgrading another PDX. 1704 DAC chips running directly off USB bridge, sans
digital filter. Will be testing next day or so. I'll post some pics later. It's a very clean build, max
distance between USB bridge and DAC chips = about 20mm. Both ground planes joined.

Next DAC will be running DSD256 / 512 native directly from USB bridge.
 
We are spoiled these days with options but knowing what to do / how to configure
the whole deal is the real challenge.

T

I can't wait for these developments to happen.

But I am wondering if USB is redundant?

It's ok if you dont mind sitting a laptop computer in your audio system.   

But that isn't ideal, from my perspective.  And driving a keyboard and mouse, to queue music, detracts from my personal enjoyment of the music.

The Pi device I am using, doesn't require USB.

Roon backend queues the music, sends the data over the network to the Pi,,, the Pi receives/buffers/reclocks and sends it directly out the i2s outputs.

I am not suggesting it is technically superior.   But I am suggesting that having to handle a laptop computer in the audio system isn't required.
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Transports / Re: Raspberry PI transport with I2S output into TDA1541A
« Last post by dannydigital on October 28, 2019, 02:15:41 PM »
I Agree, it's getting overwhelming with what's out there & the possibilities are endless!
 :o
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Transports / Re: Raspberry PI transport with I2S output into TDA1541A
« Last post by zenelectro on October 25, 2019, 11:26:51 AM »
Quote from: stevenvalve on October 24, 2019, 02:11:56 PM
Noooooooooooo. But next on the agenda is one like yours.

Just implement what you have properly and you will be done.
 
There are quite a few possible options with 1541 up to full
stereo, 2 chips in simultaneous mode. 

I have just finished upgrading another PDX. 1704 DAC chips running directly off USB bridge, sans
digital filter. Will be testing next day or so. I'll post some pics later. It's a very clean build, max
distance between USB bridge and DAC chips = about 20mm. Both ground planes joined.

Next DAC will be running DSD256 / 512 native directly from USB bridge.
 
We are spoiled these days with options but knowing what to do / how to configure
the whole deal is the real challenge.

T

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