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Other DACs / Re: ZenDAC in simultaneous mode
« Last post by Rob181 on October 17, 2017, 02:34:00 PM »
And how does it sound...
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Other DACs / Re: CD player upgrades
« Last post by Rob181 on October 17, 2017, 02:29:37 PM »
Terry...based on your expertise in this area....gives an example of what you would use...

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Other DACs / Re: CD player upgrades
« Last post by zenelectro on October 15, 2017, 11:01:40 PM »
;D Crikey the black stuff corrupts you and the R2R magnetic tapes makes you totally ignore a KD :o :o :o :o :o :o so no Silver freak anymore................I still think CD's can sound great but will concede to R2R tapes as being "it" when it comes to realism in the home.

Lots more dedication and cost associated with running a vinyl or R2R rig that's for sure and a fair bit more real estate and storage for the playback medium.

So what DSD players have you been playing around with prey tell?

Most people, even very quality conscious audiophiles have moved on. They want access to music content.
With the advent of multi format direct downloads, they've got it.

There are some VG software players that can deal with any of these formats from 384k PCM to quad speed DSD.

With an isolated USB input DAC, using a decent software player you can get really good results now.
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Other DACs / Re: CD player upgrades
« Last post by stevenvalve on October 14, 2017, 12:38:29 AM »
Or...you could stop wasting your valuable time and money on 16/44 digital music reproduction.
It is already a dead duck in my book. Yes I have a good transport and a KillerDac. Problem
is I hardly ever use them. I would proffer to listen to LPs or R2R reel tapes or even cassette
tapes over 16/44 PCM. Wish I had my time and effort back that I put into CD reproduction.
DSD has some potential and can be good with a very modest investment. I have mentioned
and even demonstrated a good DSD DAC but it does not cost enough for Audio snobs to even
consider being worthwhile.
With 16/44 now on the chopping block a good idea would to be to buy up a heap of spare laser
assemblies for your favorite machines as they are already scarce and will be unobtainable in the
near future. 20 years from now your turntable will still work and kids wont know what a CD was.
Yes 16/44 PCM is long in the tooth alright. The problem is if you what the convenience of digital, the KD is the only one i know that of that sounds like real music. Is there any other digital (other than the KD) that cuts it, unlikely. Lets face the truth, most digital is sh!t, There is no argument here that master tapes on a good machine rule. As for Vinyl i have heard many big dollar well setup turntables, the owners play them once every 6 months because they play almost exclusively Digital. What digital is that you ask that is good enough to stop them playing LPs. Well the KillerDac what else. If anyone has a DAC that cuts it, lets hear about it. Does this DAC make Music, not HiFi. 
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Other DACs / Re: CD player upgrades
« Last post by vitavoxdude on October 13, 2017, 04:46:53 PM »
 ;D Crikey the black stuff corrupts you and the R2R magnetic tapes makes you totally ignore a KD :o :o :o :o :o :o so no Silver freak anymore................I still think CD's can sound great but will concede to R2R tapes as being "it" when it comes to realism in the home.

Lots more dedication and cost associated with running a vinyl or R2R rig that's for sure and a fair bit more real estate and storage for the playback medium.

So what DSD players have you been playing around with prey tell?
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Other DACs / Re: CD player upgrades
« Last post by gamve on October 13, 2017, 12:10:21 PM »
Or...you could stop wasting your valuable time and money on 16/44 digital music reproduction.
It is already a dead duck in my book. Yes I have a good transport and a KillerDac. Problem
is I hardly ever use them. I would proffer to listen to LPs or R2R reel tapes or even cassette
tapes over 16/44 PCM. Wish I had my time and effort back that I put into CD reproduction.
DSD has some potential and can be good with a very modest investment. I have mentioned
and even demonstrated a good DSD DAC but it does not cost enough for Audio snobs to even
consider being worthwhile.
With 16/44 now on the chopping block a good idea would to be to buy up a heap of spare laser
assemblies for your favorite machines as they are already scarce and will be unobtainable in the
near future. 20 years from now your turntable will still work and kids wont know what a CD was. 

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Other DACs / Re: CD player upgrades
« Last post by Rob181 on October 10, 2017, 10:17:31 PM »
How about something a little bespoke...

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Cables / Re: IEC C15 Connector wanted
« Last post by vitavoxdude on October 08, 2017, 12:24:32 PM »
Hi Nath.  I would recommend matching the manufacturer when it comes to plugs and sockets.  This way at least you know it's made to fit.  :o :o  Whilst that may seem obvious you'd be surprised what's inside a lot of basic mains IEC connectors, some of them are real shockers. :-X

One piece of advice I would offer is to get some standard black electrical tape and wrap 2 turns around the IEC plug end, this ensures a tighter fit of the plug into the socket and helps prevent it coming lose.  You can also get spring clips mounted to the socket which locks over the input plug which a lot of pro gear uses.

Furutech gets a thumbs up from me.  They are a cut above the usual run of the mill connectors.  You are getting into bling territory price wise with their rhodium plated offerings but they do not dull off like so many others.

There is such a small contact area in many of these IEC's that they can be spark generators and give rise to noise.  Buy right and buy once comes to mind, the cable deserves it and so does your ears.

A gas tight soldered or compression crimp is a better way of getting the electrons into your devices but a whole lot more aggro that most are unwilling to undertake!

Below are some images of IEC connectors.  I think they are pretty dire with their small contact areas; it's not until you move up to the 20amp kind that you get better quality and contact areas IMV. All the IP rated connectors are considerably better too, but butt ugly!  IEC's are cheap and can be fitted to smaller devices hence their proliferation.

Happy listening. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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Other DACs / Re: CD player upgrades
« Last post by vitavoxdude on October 08, 2017, 11:37:49 AM »
Whilst agreed SG the internals are the most important for sound, the exterior makes it acceptable to put on shown in one's home.  Ugly duckling 19" rack boxes don't seem to cut it with the other half.  :-\

Boring looking black boxes most of the industry has learnt get tucked out of the way so thus do not promote their sales.

With cheaper good looking cases being churned out by China I think there is a case for rehousing the internals into a more non resonant high wife acceptance factor enclosure.

I agree that the kind of person who would look to buy the KD will be primarily interested in how it sounds rather than looks, but not placing it in pride of place next to a sleek silver disc spinner, well here it fails IMO.  :-X

I personally would like to see it looking more like a conventional valve preamp with the valves on show on the top plate with large choke and transformers on the top plate.  ;D  Audio Note still seem keen to hide their valves until it comes to their top offerings.  I like the idea of a copper top plate on a strong chassis with classical black base or even a wooden base.

All of these cases are below 250 AUD and when you consider that Altronics wants over a hundred bucks for a self assembly ugly duckling with its visible screws etc and no pre punched / drilled holes, well it beggars belief  :-X :-X :-X :o

With all the interest (apparent?) being in cheap DSD dacs, why not do a make over of the KD and get it back in favour for the music lovers and whilst I am at it, why not install as standard an I2s input socket and a USB reclocked input. :) :) :) :) :)
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Other DACs / Re: CD player upgrades
« Last post by stevenvalve on October 07, 2017, 08:41:26 PM »
Why can't the Killer Dac look more like this attached image???????  It would reach a far wider audience if it did don't you think?  :D
There are music lovers and there are equipment lovers. The problem is price, all the killerdac internals are ear selected and have no affinity with price. Whatever the parts cost, if its superior as a whole it is used. There is little profit. They are for the people who love music and made by people who love music, its not a business thing, never was, most if not all of those music lovers put the sound quality as a big priority, looks secondary. I guess we could have great looking KD, but what if that made it double the price how many will pay with no extra return in sound quality.
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