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Re: any recommendations
« Reply #40 on: November 18, 2011, 08:38:15 PM »
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Re: any recommendations
« Reply #41 on: November 18, 2011, 09:09:38 PM »
Because it is so small I would assume you would want it to sound like a larger room.  Absorption would do the trick (assumptions I know).

Really you would need to experiment.  I'm no expert though.

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Re: any recommendations
« Reply #42 on: November 19, 2011, 12:41:06 AM »
IMHO, that room is only suitable for headphone hi-fi.  ???

I'm not knocking the guys system, I am just confused what his definition of imaging would be because it appears IMO to be physically impossible if our definitions of imaging were the same?  :o  
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Re: any recommendations
« Reply #43 on: November 19, 2011, 01:31:40 AM »
If I hadn't been to Bryan's I would have said that's impossible for the speakers to work in that room...
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Re: any recommendations
« Reply #44 on: November 19, 2011, 02:40:08 AM »
what is the best value for your $$$ room treatment? 

I just found this: http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_info.php?cPath=2_135&products_id=996

A lot of value for the money although I myself have never tried them, but for the money, can't really go wrong...compared to the overpriced cr@p we are charged here in Australia  :P

Still looking for all natural wool material room treatment as recommended by Jim Smith of Get Better Sound....
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Re: any recommendations
« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2011, 02:59:21 AM »
Mario that's a tough one because the room is so small. I might go a nearfield setup with little speakers on a desk and just accept the result.

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Re: any recommendations
« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2011, 10:51:51 AM »
IMHO, that room is only suitable for headphone hi-fi.  ???
His room is bigger and better than mine.. :( My room's width is slightly wider, but not by much:( His room is way deeper.

Jehuty how big is Bryan's room?

Yeah, sometimes I contemplate on switching to headphones myself... :p My room is tiny... :( So frustrating getting speakers as I am constantly fighting with the room or some sort of ghost. :wacko:

I'm not knocking the guys system, I am just confused what his definition of imaging would be because it appears IMO to be physically impossible if our definitions of imaging were the same?  :o 
Don't really know how to explain it, Imaging can be very interesting and gimmicky... It's more surround sound like and very different. The front stage is no way as expansive or deep as Mario's though. At least mine isn't..

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Re: any recommendations
« Reply #47 on: November 19, 2011, 11:09:49 AM »
I'm pretty sure there is a female to blame with those speakers being placed in that room!

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Re: any recommendations
« Reply #48 on: November 19, 2011, 11:23:05 AM »
I'm pretty sure there is a female to blame with those speakers being placed in that room!

lol, I felt the slap on the back of my head when I read that comment.

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Re: any recommendations
« Reply #49 on: November 19, 2011, 11:44:54 AM »
Jehuty how big is Bryan's room?

Its very tricky getting speakers to work well in a really tiny space (4.5m x 6m).  Luckilly i have very high ceilings and really solid double brick and sand walls.

It's a decent size room for standmounts or small floorstanders but for horns....he has simply done a maginificent job  :)

The key is to play around and never give up treblid!
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Re: any recommendations
« Reply #50 on: November 19, 2011, 12:26:52 PM »
4.5x6 is tiny?! ... Maybe for horns ... my room is 4.65 x 3.9 and that's what I call small, but still workable. There is no substitute for a big room though, I'd love to have 8 x 12m but we have to work with what we have. To deal with my small room, I'm treating the buggery out of it. The speakers will go into corners - normally a disaster but I'm designing them to work there, and the speakers will be flush in a big bass trap. So they don't sound like a conventional speaker shoved up against a wall or into a corner, which is usually a sonic disaster. My system would not work at all done "plug and play" style. My horns are coax and inherent to their design is an ability to listen at much closer range than typical big horns. They are also placed to maximise sound stage width and listening distance. There are many things interacting here that need to be understood to make this stuff work. The horns are also designed to reduce the need for many conventional treatments. In fact they would probably work at their best in a very large room. They would probably also work well for someone with a big and difficult room, live and bright, who doesn't have WAF approval for a treated room.

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Re: any recommendations
« Reply #51 on: November 19, 2011, 12:37:56 PM »
The key is to play around and never give up treblid!
I think I will call my room microscopic from now.. :lol: :p

my room is 4.65 x 3.9 and that's what I call small, but still workable.
Why not just get smaller speakers? :p j/k

Anyhoo.. Sorry for the hijack.. Back on topic...


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Re: any recommendations
« Reply #52 on: November 19, 2011, 12:49:19 PM »
Because these are big in a way that works in a small room ;)

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Re: any recommendations
« Reply #53 on: November 19, 2011, 03:47:38 PM »
If I hadn't been to Bryan's I would have said that's impossible for the speakers to work in that room...
With proacs it wont work very well i know the speakers a friend of mine had them,spent 5 years on his system on and off he doesn't own them anymore thank fcuk.
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Re: any recommendations
« Reply #54 on: November 19, 2011, 03:48:48 PM »
Mario that's a tough one because the room is so small. I might go a nearfield setup with little speakers on a desk and just accept the result.
very good answer (Mr.spencer and kajak12 agree)
smaller speakers and a change of electronics will do the trick
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Re: any recommendations
« Reply #55 on: November 19, 2011, 10:35:23 PM »
How will smaller speakers help?

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Re: any recommendations
« Reply #56 on: November 19, 2011, 11:11:18 PM »
Aaon, small speakers will sit on a desk nearfield style.

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Re: any recommendations
« Reply #57 on: November 20, 2011, 12:17:25 AM »
Dare say that isn't going to happen.

But fair enough, that would work.