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Offline skc

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Re: Capacitor Games
« Reply #80 on: March 30, 2014, 03:36:37 PM »
^^ Huh?

You mean VSF's were around 2/3rd the price of CAST right?

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Re: Capacitor Games
« Reply #81 on: March 30, 2014, 06:02:17 PM »
No, Steven is correct. The VSFs are more expensive. Supposedly the Cast are cheaper to make.

BTW, I sent another message to Frederik and he has today re-iterated that "classic product will always be available ..."(by custom order).

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Re: Capacitor Games
« Reply #82 on: March 30, 2014, 06:05:18 PM »
No, Steven is correct. The VSFs are more expensive. Supposedly the Cast are cheaper to make.

Ok, that's news to me then!

In fact, I have a partsconnextion invoice showing 4.7uF VSF, CAST Cu and CAST Ag caps I purchased last year to play with in my monoblocks. VSF was the cheapest by a fair way.........

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Re: Capacitor Games
« Reply #83 on: March 30, 2014, 06:15:00 PM »
Check out partsconnexion 'special' pricing on CAST varients, which has been going on for the past few months. 

2.2uF / 630VDC, CAST-PIO-Cu, Copper Foil, 66mm D x 62mm H
Special pcX Price: $289.95 USD, Each!
$776.00 $289.95 pcX USD

vs

2.2uf / 400 VDC, VSF, Copper Foil, 39mmT x 55mmW x 45mmL, Each
$355.85 $302.48 pcX USD Price

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Re: Capacitor Games
« Reply #84 on: March 30, 2014, 06:16:02 PM »
Better stock up boys!   ;D

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Re: Capacitor Games
« Reply #85 on: March 30, 2014, 06:43:08 PM »
Wow, big reductions; could have saved few thousand bucks if I had waited!

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Re: Capacitor Games
« Reply #86 on: March 30, 2014, 09:24:01 PM »
I thought the "special" price was a bit of a con and that they never charged the advertised full price. They seem to be on "special" every time I look at the site. If you paid the full price, my commiserations.

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Re: Capacitor Games
« Reply #87 on: March 30, 2014, 09:35:46 PM »
No, the CAST were definitely "full price" for a couple of years that I recall. My understanding from an email from Partsconnexion was that they placed a order for a "commercial quantity"; hence the "special" pricing. Either way, I prefer the CAST Cu to the VSF everywhere I have used them. The CAST Ag I only prefer in a few locations which is just as well given the coin.

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Re: Capacitor Games
« Reply #88 on: March 30, 2014, 10:40:52 PM »
No, the CAST were definitely "full price" for a couple of years that I recall. My understanding from an email from Partsconnexion was that they placed a order for a "commercial quantity"; hence the "special" pricing. Either way, I prefer the CAST Cu to the VSF everywhere I have used them. The CAST Ag I only prefer in a few locations which is just as well given the coin.
I feel the opposite, Everyone that has heard the two different caps here, prefer the copper VSF over the CAST Cu. The cast is in most parameters is the better cap, But on my system, the VSF Cu Is more like real music. Its three main strengths are warmth, naturalness, and the most important real involvement.  I repeated the test on my 2nd system ended up with the same result. I have only heard one set of Cast Cu, (4 ) they there old from the first production run, maybe the later Cast's are better, and that would not surprise me at all. You all know its so system dependant, and production run dependant, so I say whatever works.
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Re: Capacitor Games
« Reply #89 on: April 01, 2014, 05:12:47 PM »
Damn! this means that when I need Dueland caps I'll need to do a special order.

Hope pricing is no worse because of it.

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Re: Capacitor Games
« Reply #90 on: April 01, 2014, 05:49:09 PM »
Damn! this means that when I need Dueland caps I'll need to do a special order.

Hope pricing is no worse because of it.
mike Lenehan can get them in Australia, he is far cheaper than parts express and he is the Australian distributer.

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Re: Capacitor Games
« Reply #91 on: April 01, 2014, 07:29:53 PM »
Far cheaper is a stretch.   He was 'on par' for me.
It's all about the music,, not the equipment.

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Re: Capacitor Games
« Reply #92 on: April 01, 2014, 09:29:16 PM »
mike Lenehan can get them in Australia, he is far cheaper than parts express and he is the Australian distributer.

I've found Mike's pricing better than the list price from PC, but nothing like the sale prices.

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Re: Capacitor Games
« Reply #93 on: April 01, 2014, 10:04:02 PM »
you should see the pricing at the dac shootouts !!!!!







(only kidding....)

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Re: Capacitor Games
« Reply #94 on: April 02, 2014, 03:18:39 AM »
mike Lenehan can get them in Australia, he is far cheaper than parts express and he is the Australian distributer.
You got the special price from him.


Far cheaper is a stretch.   He was 'on par' for me.
I agree, same for me.
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Re: Capacitor Games
« Reply #95 on: April 02, 2014, 07:43:15 AM »
It sounds like the price depends on who asked.

When I ordered, I checked the price at PCX and it was on par.   I ordered with Mike because he's a local supplier, and he had them in hand.

I went to Mike under Stevens advise he was cheaper, and at least in my case he wasn't. 

I'm ok to support local suppliers.   But if there is a mates rate going,  who gets them?   ;)

It's all about the music,, not the equipment.

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Re: Capacitor Games
« Reply #96 on: April 02, 2014, 09:02:11 AM »
Mike probably considers Steve as a manufacturer so he gets the special pricing. Oh well, I'd love to get the special pricing but I think it's fair that we get the same price as in the US or anywhere else. Mike was willing to price match as well so I'm not complaining.

Back to Blackgate caps, anyone wants them? They're on sale now on PCx: http://www.partsconnexion.com/capacitor_ele_blackgate_v.html

I pass  ;D
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Re: Capacitor Games
« Reply #97 on: April 02, 2014, 06:22:32 PM »
Oh, dont get me wrong, if there is special pricing for manufacturers, I have no issue with that at all.

But the comment was it's cheaper to buy through Mike.   And in my experiencd it isnt.   <shrugs>

Blackgates, [meh].   Actually there are some in my M3 that I should pull out and sell. 
It's all about the music,, not the equipment.

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Re: Capacitor Games
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Re: Capacitor Games
« Reply #99 on: June 04, 2014, 05:12:14 PM »
They're not the copper version. Those are flat stacked aluminium, some people say they're better than the non flat stacked ones like mine. I suspect the sound quality is on-par or even better than the old Hovland Musicap.

Oh speaking of Hovland Musicap, there's a new version, newer than the Hovland SuperCap which replaces the old yellow Hovland Musicap. See info here: http://partsconnexion.com/capacitor_film_musicap_main.html

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