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Offline ozcal

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Total dac
« on: March 21, 2011, 06:15:49 PM »
This looks interesting : http://www.totaldac.com/index.htm
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Re: Total dac
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2011, 02:22:06 PM »
Yeah, I stumbled onto this myself quite recently.

Seems fairly interesting!
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Re: Total dac
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2011, 06:18:42 PM »
Definately an interesting concept. Dac can be bought as part of a valve pre-amp with valve regulation and output stage but at 10,000 euros  it getting rather exy.
The active crossover options are interesting too.
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Re: Total dac
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2011, 09:56:54 PM »
Quote from: ozcal on March 22, 2011, 06:18:42 PM
Definately an interesting concept. Dac can be bought as part of a valve pre-amp with valve regulation and output stage but at 10,000 euros  it getting rather exy.
The active crossover options are interesting too.
10k euros wow that is big $$$$
active xovers not a fan of them at all
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Re: Total dac
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2011, 11:05:58 AM »
Active crossovers when done right piss all over passive crossovers, it's like comparing a sad IB design with a decent horn - no contest that's unless you like muted dynamics and coloured sound, surprisingly some do!  (IMO-SNA).  The poor olde amp looking into a complex load of capacitors and inductors has a very uneven response and tough time and that's without the typical driver inductance etc.  Long live active crossovers particually when they are valve based with no snarling feedback to mess everything up.
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Re: Total dac
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2011, 01:27:53 PM »
Quote from: kajak12 on March 22, 2011, 09:56:54 PM
Quote from: ozcal on March 22, 2011, 06:18:42 PM
Definately an interesting concept. Dac can be bought as part of a valve pre-amp with valve regulation and output stage but at 10,000 euros  it getting rather exy.
The active crossover options are interesting too.
10k euros wow that is big $$$$
active xovers not a fan of them at all
Sure is Mario, the basic dac with ss psu and output buffer is 3100 euros- 3900 depending on config.
T'was just the very unusual design the picqued my interest.
Can't really comment too much on active vs passive x-overs as my experience is limmited to Linn , Naim and Meridian. The Linn systems did show a big improvement in full active mode imo.
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2011, 04:38:32 PM »
DAC does look very interesting. Would love to hear one.. but doubt I ever will have the opportunity to :)

I originally didn't like actives crossovers either. Especially after my experience with the Behringer DCX2496 and even the high-end DBX Driverack 480.   But after living with the GOTO CF-1 which doesn't have any digital processors in the way, unlike the Behringer and DBX units, I have to say I find active can do it for me just as well as a 'no compromise of parts' passive does.

I received the Pioneer D-23 last night too. Will post my subjective report on how that goes against the GOTO unit soon :)

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Re: Total dac
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2011, 06:20:37 PM »
Yep T , pitty the price is so high as you would have to have pretty deep pockets to buy it on spec.
ps Mario have you heard Steves M100 yet ;D
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Re: Total dac
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2011, 09:05:50 PM »
Quote from: vitavoxdude on March 23, 2011, 11:05:58 AM
Active crossovers when done right piss all over passive crossovers,
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i am yet to hear one vitavoxdude until then i stand where i am.
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Re: Total dac
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2011, 09:06:40 PM »
Quote from: ozcal on March 23, 2011, 06:20:37 PM
Yep T , pitty the price is so high as you would have to have pretty deep pockets to buy it on spec.
ps Mario have you heard Steves M100 yet ;D
stevem? 100 what?
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Re: Total dac
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2011, 09:38:50 PM »
Vitavoxdudes Meridian M100 active speakers.IMO the best speaker system Meridian ever made.
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Re: Total dac
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2011, 09:43:11 PM »
Quote from: ozcal on March 23, 2011, 09:38:50 PM
Vitavoxdudes Meridian M100 active speakers.IMO the best speaker system Meridian ever made.
not yet he is away atm when he gets back he needs a killer source for it first ;D
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Re: Total dac
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2011, 09:50:16 PM »
http://www.meridian-audio.info/viewphoto.php?compid=34
Have a look Mario , a bit unusual but but I remember hearing them at out H-FI show in Edinburgh back in the 80's with the MCD pro and being blown away.
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Re: Total dac
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2011, 10:18:57 PM »
Quote from: ozcal on March 23, 2011, 09:50:16 PM
http://www.meridian-audio.info/viewphoto.php?compid=34
Have a look Mario , a bit unusual but but I remember hearing them at out H-FI show in Edinburgh back in the 80's with the MCD pro and being blown away.
looks good ozcal
but i am biased to valves so if its ss its still transistor sound,just me and my biased ways my ears dont like it much  ;)
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Re: Total dac
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2011, 05:47:53 PM »
Quote from: kajak12 on March 23, 2011, 10:18:57 PM
Quote from: ozcal on March 23, 2011, 09:50:16 PM
http://www.meridian-audio.info/viewphoto.php?compid=34
Have a look Mario , a bit unusual but but I remember hearing them at out H-FI show in Edinburgh back in the 80's with the MCD pro and being blown away.
looks good ozcal
but i am biased to valves so if its ss its still transistor sound,just me and my biased ways my ears dont like it much  ;)
No arguments there Mario but it would be interesting to here them being fed by a KD and Ktrans.
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« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2011, 05:04:27 PM »
Review of the TotalDac is now out on 6moons:

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/totaldac/1.html
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Re: Total dac
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2011, 08:14:16 PM »
Yum yum!

I really do admire his approach.
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Re: Total dac
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2011, 08:40:06 PM »
Quote from: tuyen on April 19, 2011, 05:04:27 PM
Review of the TotalDac is now out on 6moons:

http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/totaldac/1.html
buy it tuyen me and hens will review it
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« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2011, 12:26:05 PM »
I must admit, this product does appeal to me a lot.

May need to sell a few toys before I can think about getting one of these though.. tempting!
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Re: Total dac
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2011, 12:59:58 PM »
I asked Vincent (Mr TotalDac) a question I had on diyAudio forums.  Posted it below:


Question, do you have any recommendations on devices/modules that can feed from a computer transport to the TotalDac via the SPDIF connection? Any plans to implement some sort of USB/I2S link?

His reply:
There are so many different USB to spdif or PCI to spdif etc... I use a DIY board using a pcm2902 followed by a analog 2.4GHz video transmitter but it is limited to 48KHz.
I prefer when the spdif generator from a PC is separate because these equipments are rapidly obsolete. I want my DAC to be used even in 20 years.  :)
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