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Re: DIY Power Cable
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2010, 12:58:03 PM »
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Re: DIY Power Cable
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2010, 03:29:56 PM »
murray you will be able to use clipsal plugs with that cable easily.(letting too many secrets out now)

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Re: DIY Power Cable
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2010, 04:50:08 PM »
for people that would like their diy cables look preety and elegent with a touch of class.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360157908423&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT
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Re: DIY Power Cable
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2010, 08:08:43 AM »
for people that would like their diy cables look preety and elegent with a touch of class.
Looks good.   I'll give that a try.   Will save me using aluminium foil for shielding.
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Re: DIY Power Cable
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2010, 10:08:34 PM »
Finally,  the Clipsal 465CTR iec plugs arrived today.   Took ages for L&H to get them in for me.   $12ea, I picked up 6. 

Very happy with the quality, and these iec plugs gave me the flexibility to solder up the wires to the connectors,  which makes me feel better than the chinese bolt ons.   

Here is how my glitzy power cable looks after this latest (final) change........

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Re: DIY Power Cable
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2010, 10:18:45 PM »
Mate they look the goods! Be interesting to see what you think of them

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Re: DIY Power Cable
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2010, 12:13:59 AM »
DIY power cord looks a beauty ozmilly. Surely an overall improvement over standard computer cable.    Yet Earle and ZB still firmly believe it is my equipment that is poorly designed  if I can hear differences in power cables. :)

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I can lend you some power cables to try, Oz 3 pin to IEC.  You will almost certainly hear the difference with the resoloution you have.  Start with the DAC and transport, then the Power amp and pre.  I have played with mains cables for more years than I'd care to admit at one point selling them to club members for bear money.  You should be able to hear further into the mix with a cleaner tighter bass, highs can loose some stridency too.  As these are my own versions without the tiffany price tag I am not wanten to put the dafty IMHO.  You have good ears to be this far down the path already.  I can show you how to make them and what gauge / wire to use or you can always go out and blow $$$$$ on a shop bought RO.
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Re: DIY Power Cable
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2011, 06:58:49 PM »
for people that would like their diy cables look preety and elegent with a touch of class.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360157908423&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT

Just an update on this sleeving stuff,  the above chrome techflex stuff was flimsy and not much chop.   But the following recommendation from Mario was simply superb.

just for you oz some nice shielding for your ic diy style
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320587148324

I have 4 different types of cable sleeving now, and this one is the best.   The other 3 once stretched, stays stretched, and ends up with a looseness about the cable (see the blue cable I made earlier in this thread,  there are areas where the sleeving is obviously loose).

This copper type sleeving has a little bit of elasticity to it,  so if you feed it on carefully,  it ends up looking nice and tight.   Here is an example of another power cable I made up this morning using this sleeving......




I chose not to braid this one (the wires inside were left straight) because this cable needed to be pushed through a tight hole. Which is why it looks alot thinner in these pics than the blue power cable.  It sounds just as good to my ears, I'm tempted to leave all my future power cables unbraided, as it ends up looking rather smick like this.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2011, 07:13:58 PM by ozmillsy »
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Re: DIY Power Cable
« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2011, 08:35:58 PM »
I was wondering if you would think that braiding contributed anything to the results.
Seems not, be interested if you change your mind on that.

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Re: DIY Power Cable
« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2011, 09:04:25 PM »
I was wondering if you would think that braiding contributed anything to the results.
Seems not, be interested if you change your mind on that.

I should do a proper comparison, 2 cables identically made in every way - 1 braided, the other not.  I'll do that sometime.

This latest one seems to have the same "character" as the other power cables I've made from this bunnings wire.
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Re: DIY Power Cable
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2011, 09:18:41 PM »
I was wondering if you would think that braiding contributed anything to the results.
Seems not, be interested if you change your mind on that.

I should do a proper comparison, 2 cables identically made in every way - 1 braided, the other not.  I'll do that sometime.

This latest one seems to have the same "character" as the other power cables I've made from this bunnings wire.
a few years back i made silver speaker cables from the same batch of silver wire one was braided the other was not the braided one had more body in the sound this only applies to speakers cables.

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Re: DIY Power Cable
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2011, 06:17:18 PM »
http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=92538&st=960
had some fun on dtv forum regarding BLACK MAGIC POWER CHORDS
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Re: DIY Power Cable
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2011, 10:11:03 AM »
http://www.dtvforum.info/index.php?showtopic=92538&st=960
had some fun on dtv forum regarding BLACK MAGIC POWER CHORDS

Yeah that thread is pretty funny when you read back through it.  So many armchair experts that don't have a clue what they are talking about.  We tried to help but in the end the keyboard warriors just want to argue, and aren't trying to learn anything at all.......
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Re: DIY Power Cable
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2011, 05:47:39 PM »
Well I don't really see myself as being on a side Drizt TBH.  I am not a big fan of people that simply want to argue and don't really understand the subject that they are arguing about.  Since you mention it though in this circumstance yes I feel I am right.  This stuff (electrical engineering, specialising in E3) is my bread and butter so I feel pretty comfortable about what I know, and pretty sure of what some of the posters in that thread don't.  I was attempting to help people understand and was having people (that freely admit they are not experts in this field) tell me that I was incorrect, had no electrical engineering theory to support me, and lacked perspective.....  What conclusion would you draw if we were discussing something in your professional scope??

I have no problem with other people conducting blind testing on power cables.  Indeed I am so sure about what I'm saying I would happily provide a demonstration myself and/or supply some of my own cables.  I just don't wish to participate myself.  As I explained in that thread I don't share your faith in blind testing when it comes to audio applications, I have developed my own way of evaluating system changes, a method that I am comfortable with and believe works for me.  Unfortunately people like you are convinced that because this is not blind it is compromised by bias, and refuse to accept that there isn't some sinsiter, calculated reason for not wanting to participate in blind testing.  I say if you want to conduct blind testing on anything then go right ahead,  indeed I don't care one iota what you do, how you do it or what conclusions you draw.....I have no idea why I can't be granted the same courtesy.
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Re: DIY Power Cable
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2011, 05:57:35 PM »

Drew, so you don't think you would pass a blind test?

It's easy to poke fun and laugh at people when they are not given the right of reply without their posts being deleted :)

I didn't say I wouldn't 'pass' a blind test.  I said I don't have any interest in conducting one. 

In what way did I poke fun at you.
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Re: DIY Power Cable
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2011, 06:19:19 PM »
Not directed at me in general but you were using a broad brush to demean those who disagreed with you :)

If you could pass a blind test on this topic it would go a long way to educating the 'non believers'.  I don't know why you would not do it if you were positive you could pass it.  Very strange indeed.

I can't be bothered with this dritz, you take posts and quote them out of context, I didn't demean those that disagreed with me.  I said that some of of the people posting in that thread don't have a clue what they are talking about, that's not demeaning imo it's a statement of fact.

I took the time to post a real answer to your question and all you can do is attempt to corner me about blind testing which is the point I was making.......  Why do you have such an agenda with blind testing.......has it ever occured to you (even for a second) that maybe you are not right about everything?
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Re: DIY Power Cable
« Reply #36 on: February 05, 2011, 06:30:48 PM »
 ;D ;D
« Last Edit: February 06, 2011, 01:21:14 PM by ozcal »
Listening with my ears :)

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Re: DIY Power Cable
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Re: DIY Power Cable
« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2011, 12:44:04 AM »
Pics of my latest power cable creation.....

Pic1:   Soldered up to 3 pin aussie clipsal plug,  heat shrink for added protection,


Pic2:   Aluminium foil shielding, shunted to ground on the 3 pin plug,  fiddly job that,


Pic3:   Finished cable, with the copper based sheathing and ferrite magnet, far too sexy   8)   :-*   ;D


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Re: DIY Power Cable
« Reply #39 on: February 08, 2011, 12:57:35 AM »
Pics of my latest power cable creation.....

Pic1:   Soldered up to 3 pin aussie clipsal plug,  heat shrink for added protection,


Pic2:   Aluminium foil shielding, shunted to ground on the 3 pin plug,  fiddly job that,


Pic3:   Finished cable, with the copper based sheathing and ferrite magnet, far too sexy   8)   :-*   ;D



very impressive oz i really admire you dedication to power
just imagine you bring it to steves house and it pisses on his
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